Supreme Court hears arguments in 'vampire rule' gun case

Supreme Court hears arguments in ‘vampire rule’ gun case

Spread the love

The U.S. Supreme Court heard arguments on Tuesday in a case over a Hawaii law that prohibits concealed carry permit holders from bringing guns on private property that is open to the public.

Wolford v. Lopez challenges a Hawaii law that prevents gun owners from bringing handguns to beaches, bars, restaurants that serve alcohol and gas stations without the owner’s consent. California, Maryland, New Jersey and New York have similar restrictions on guns in public spaces.

“The presumptive ban is inconsistent with our national and historical tradition,” said Alan Beck, a lawyer representing Hawaii gun owners who sued the state.

Beck argued that Hawaii based its law on historical traditions like Black codes which prevented newly formerly enslaved African Americans from obtaining firearms. He said this application is inconsistent with the Second Amendment.

“We can’t use a racist, discriminatory law to apply to a law that applies to the general public,” Beck said.

However, Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson said she did not understand why Black codes should be excluded in the determination of the law if history and tradition are compelling factors.

Neal Katyal, a lawyer representing Hawaii, argued that the purpose of including Black codes in its explanation is to argue evidence that states have historically been allowed to implement gun regulations. He said Hawaii’s law is based on 200 years of customs against carrying weapons.

Justice Neil Gorsuch appeared skeptical about Hawaii’s arguments on the basis of black codes and compared it to “garlic in front of a vampire.”

“You could have rights and regulations that affect someone’s interests but they actually don’t implicate their constitutional rights,” Jackson said, appearing to be in favor of Hawaii’s restrictions.

Similarly, Justice Sonia Sotomayor pressed Beck on whether people are guaranteed a constitutional right to carry guns on private property.

“Nothing about Hawaii’s custom, tradition, or culture creates an expectation that the general public carries guns wherever they go,” Sotomayor said.

Justices also dug into questions over the distinction between guarantees in the First Amendment and the Second Amendment over private property rules. Justices Amy Coney Barrett and Neil Gorsuch questioned lawyers for Hawaii over the difference between bringing a gun to a gas station versus soliciting at someone’s house.

Since the Second Amendment deals with gun possession rather than free speech, “the first amendment rules are different from the second amendment,” Katyal said.

In lower court litigation, Hawaii pointed to a 1771 New Jersey law and 1865 Louisiana law that explicitly required consent before entering a private property of any kind with a gun. Lower courts upheld Hawaii’s arguments on the basis of these laws.

Several justices on the court appeared skeptical of these arguments, and Justice Clarence Thomas said later laws, like the 14th Amendment, should be considered in this case since it was generated in response previous legal restrictions.

“They wanted to disarm the Black population in order to help the [Ku Klux] Klan terrorize them,” Justice Samuel Alito said about Black code laws.

Katyal said Black code laws were a “shameful part of our history” but argued they represent how gun owners did not have the right to carry firearms onto private property.

“Even the opponents of the Black codes recognized that you have no right to carry a firearm onto someone’s property,” Katyal said.

John Commerford, executive director of the NRA-ILA, urged justices on the court to rule against Hawaii’s law.

“The Aloha State’s radical ‘vampire rule,’ which prohibits concealed carry permitholders from entering private property without the express consent of the owner, is a blatant violation of the Second Amendment,” he said.

The “vampire rule” refers to the folklore that vampires need an invitation to enter private property.

The justices will decide whether to uphold Hawaii’s gun restrictions by the end of its term, slated for June or early July.

⚠️ Tornado Watch issued June 11 at 2:02PM CDT until June 11 at 9:00PM CDT by NWS Chicago IL
⚠️ Flood Watch issued June 11 at 12:39PM CDT until June 11 at 11:00PM CDT by NWS Chicago IL
Today Jun 10
Chance Showers And Thunderstorms
83° 58°

Chance Showers And Thunderstorms

💨 15 mph 💧 38%

Leave a Comment





Latest News Stories

DEA surge nets drugs, 617 arrests, 420 firearms, $11 million in cash

DEA surge nets drugs, 617 arrests, 420 firearms, $11 million in cash

By Brett RowlandThe Center Square The Drug Enforcement Administration said Monday it seized drugs, guns and millions of dollars in cash during a week-long surge effort aimed at the Sinaloa...
NTU urges Congress to let temporary Obamacare tax credits end, impacting millions

NTU urges Congress to let temporary Obamacare tax credits end, impacting millions

By Thérèse BoudreauxThe Center Square The National Taxpayers Union is urging Congress to let the expanded Obamacare premium tax credits, which help subsidize health insurance rates, expire in 2025 as...
Illinois quick hits: Trump to decided on Guard deployment; alleged cartel boss indicted

Illinois quick hits: Trump to decided on Guard deployment; alleged cartel boss indicted

By Jim Talamonti | The Center SquareThe Center Square Trump to decided on Guard deployment President Donald Trump says he will make a decision in the next day or two...
WATCH: GOP AG candidate: IL’s triplex of Democrat statewide offices ‘fails the people’

WATCH: GOP AG candidate: IL’s triplex of Democrat statewide offices ‘fails the people’

By Greg Bishop | The Center SquareThe Center Square (The Center Square) – A Republican vying for the party’s nomination for Illinois attorney general says he has the experience to...
WATCH: Homan targets Chicago; Freedom Caucus responds to Pritzker’s ‘move out’ comment

WATCH: Homan targets Chicago; Freedom Caucus responds to Pritzker’s ‘move out’ comment

By Greg Bishop | The Center SquareThe Center Square (The Center Square) – In today's edition of Illinois in Focus Daily, The Center Square Editor Greg Bishop shares some of...
Everyday Economics: Why weak jobs data trumps inflation concerns for Fed policy

Everyday Economics: Why weak jobs data trumps inflation concerns for Fed policy

By Orphe DivounguyThe Center Square The August jobs report delivered a shocking blow, revealing an economy teetering on the edge of a jobs recession. Just 22,000 jobs were added in...
EXCLUSIVE: Secret Service spent $11 million on Hunter Biden travel detail

EXCLUSIVE: Secret Service spent $11 million on Hunter Biden travel detail

By Bethany BlankleyThe Center Square The Biden administration spent more than $10 million over three years on a security detail and related expenses for former First Son Hunter Biden after...
Proposed federal funding bill doles out nearly $16M for electric, hydrogen buses

Proposed federal funding bill doles out nearly $16M for electric, hydrogen buses

By Thérèse BoudreauxThe Center Square Nearly $16 million taxpayer dollars are set aside for zero-emission buses and charging stations across the country in one of Congress’ proposed annual government funding...

WATCH: Democrats ‘hate’ Trump more than they ‘love’ their communities, Homan says

By Greg BishopThe Center Square Trump administration border czar Tom Homan says Democrat leaders in sanctuary states and cities hate President Donald Trump more than they care for their communities....
Bipartisan group of lawmakers aim to increase migrant physician jobs

Bipartisan group of lawmakers aim to increase migrant physician jobs

By Andrew RiceThe Center Square A bipartisan group of Congressional lawmakers wants to expand a program that allows noncitizens to fill physician vacancies in rural areas of the United States...

WATCH: Border czar Homan considered turning Trump’s offer down

By Greg BishopThe Center Square Tom Homan, President Donald Trump's border czar, addressed the State Freedom Caucus Foundation Friday night in Dallas.

WATCH: DeSantis addresses State Freedom Caucus Foundation

By Greg BishopThe Center Square Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis addressed the State Freedom Caucus Foundation Friday night in Dallas.
Higher ed spending up as enrollment plummets at Illinois universities

Higher ed spending up as enrollment plummets at Illinois universities

By Jim Talamonti | The Center SquareThe Center Square (The Center Square) – A former state lawmaker says Illinois is now tops in the nation on per-student spending in higher...
World's largest retailer struggles to keep costs down as tariffs hit

World’s largest retailer struggles to keep costs down as tariffs hit

By Brett RowlandThe Center Square The world's largest retailer says it's doing everything it can to keep prices low as its costs increase each week due to the tariffs at...
Boston judge orders Trump to give back Harvard funding

Boston judge orders Trump to give back Harvard funding

By Esther WickhamThe Center Square A Boston federal judge this week blocked the Trump administration’s $2.2 billion funding freeze against Harvard after the government's claims of antisemitism. The U.S. District...